Babies up the vest

About two weeks ago I was in a Squirrel Hill Starbucks, a convenient place to nurse a baby and let some boys use a proper restroom before heading to the park. The shop was busy so we were actually sharing a sitting area with two 65ish women. I was in a comfy arm chair, wrestling a very thirsty Brigid to keep her under my nursing canopy. The two older women (one was named Pat-aren't they always?) were meeting for coffee on the sofa across the table from me. In our small talk it came up that our family no longer lives in Pittsburgh. Both peppered me with all kinds of questions about our life in China, and several about things about which they've read or heard. Then one asked me about Chinese attitudes toward breast-feeding.

I told her some of the things about which I've blogged before. While nursing isn't frowned upon, in some of the more affluent parts of China (like Shenzhen) I encountered surprise over my nursing from other Chinese mothers of babies. Many believed that as foreigner, I could certainly afford the milk powder with that being the perceived obstacle to more universal formula use. I would, however, frequently get the thumbs-up from the grandmothers.

In the more working-class and middle-class part of Beijing, where I live now, my nursing doesn't cause quite the commentary that it did in Shenzhen. What does get noticed, though, is my attempt to maintain a little bit of modesty under my nursing canopy. Or rather, my canopy is misunderstood. Most women tell me that it is bad for the baby, with one even trying to remove it from me in the middle of Mass. (!) One time someone said it was an interesting idea; she thought I used it to encourage Brigid to sleep. No one could understand that the canopy was for me, as in to cover me.

There are several other nursing mothers at my parish in Beijing. One in particular that sometimes sits near me has a son who is over a year old, possibly even 18 months old. He is, of course, totally mobile and somewhat on self serve. This does not raise the notice of any of the people sitting near her, even when her little guy just lifts her shirt during Mass and snacks. No cover, no canopy, no worry that someone might stare.

I thought about the differences between American and Chinese attitudes toward nursing last week at Mass in Pittsburgh. Had this happened even a week earlier, I could have used it as a perfect illustration of my point for those women at Starbucks. As sometimes happens, Brigid wanted to nurse during the course of the Mass. I realized I had forgotten my canopy at my in-laws' house, so I excused myself to a pew along the rear of the church. I figured that in this fairly empty church, I would be alone in the back. And I was, mostly. In front of me and to the left were an infant in the company of its mother and grandmother. When I sat down, Brigid smiled at them, and the two women turned around a few times to smile back. I couldn't help but hear one of them whisper to the other about the cute baby. And then it happened. I started to nurse Brigid, rather discreetly, I think, since I was wearing a large sweater that she just fit under. The other baby's mother looked horrified. Up went her right hand, swearing-in-style, and try as I might I couldn't avoid hearing most of what she said: "I don't care how something-something-something. I would never something something something at church."

Certainly, I couldn't decifer all her "something something something," but I suddenly felt incredibly self conscious and wishing I were back in a country where feeding a baby at the back of a church isn't something to get into an uproar over.

Comments

Anonymous said…
I remember reading an article one time explaining that people are squeamish about nursing b/c we've over-sexualized everything, including breasts, to such an extent that we can't look at perfectly natural things in their proper light. Makes a lot of sense to me. I, being the rude person that I am, would have asked those ladies what they wouldn't do in Church, b/c it's obvious gossip during Mass is OK.
Cheryl M said…
I always felt weird about nursing during Mass - precisely because of the reaction I would get, and not because I would look askance at another mother nursing. But it's just so unaccepted here, that I'm not really surprised at the response. Sad, but not surprised.
Ameya said…
American attitudes towards it are disgusting. I mean, I have no problem with women who decide not to in public or who use cover or who don't, but to look down on someone else for their choices of such a normal, natural thing infuriates me.

Thanks for posting this! I'll be moving to China with a baby in January(ish) and I plan on breastfeeding and I had no idea how that was looked at there. I'm glad to hear I might not have such a hard time with it there as I might here!
Donna said…
I've nursed babies in Beijing and the U.S. Mostly I was ignored in the U.S., though I did get a few horrified stares, even when I covered up, if I tried to nurse at a restaurant. I just ignored them. In Beijing, though, people stared and stared and stared. I don't mind the stares and picture taking under normal circumstances, but really people? While I'm nursing? Once I was covered up nursing at a Starbucks and a man in a business suit sat at the next table, pulled out his camera phone and started taking pictures. Another time at the Summer Palace I had a few of the guys with the long lenses snapping away while I nursed. I felt like a zoo exhibit. Needless to say, I'm glad to be done nursing on any continent. Enjoy your time stateside...
eulogos said…
Donna's comment and yours seem to contradict each other. Was she in different sorts of places than you are thinking of? I can't make sense of it.

I nursed just about every kind of place you can think of, including mass. Sometimes with a very small baby people standing on either side of me didn't even notice I was nursing.

With my first baby I was a bit shy about it and once I went into the vestibule of the church and sat down in a corner and was nursing the baby. A nice older priest came up to me and encouraged me to come inside. I said that I wasn't sure people would be comfortable with me nursing the baby in church. He blushed beet red and made the quickest retreat he could.

I would like society to be such that a toddler could lift her mother's blouse to nurse without its being a scandal. Certainly I had circles of friends among whom it was that way. But I taught the kids who nursed that long that they had to wait until we got home, in order not to upset other people.

Most of my babies past early infancy and certainly all by the time they were Brigid's age, would not tolerate anything like a "canopy" and I don't really blame them. It must be hot and stuffy, and there is nothing to see. I love it that the Chinese people didn't even know you were doing for modesty!

Susan Peterson
Jen Ambrose said…
Susan, Donna and I live in very different parts of Beijing. I live in a much less affluent area than many foreign families do. It doesn't surprise me that even in the same city, our experiences are that different. Or that I didn't notice that people were taking pictures of me, if they were.
evangeline and crispian's mama said…
I know I'm behind on this discussion, but I thought I'd weigh in. I may be oblivious, but I have nursed Evangeline during mass and no one has taken issue or stared awkwardly, but maybe it's the choice of church. Jen- I don't recall us having any problems at the Cathedral.

And, since my summer has been consumed by Little League (not coaching this year, just spectating), I have been nursing Evangeline in several baseball fields around the city. Most of the mom's I've encountered also nursed babies, so they are not surprized at the choice.

The difference might be where I live and the social circles in which I roam?